Adventures in job hunting, continued.

Oh, job hunting, how I hate thou.

Is it just me, or do companies really not give a shit about the people they’re supposedly trying to hire? They lack consideration, basic manners and the ability to properly communicate… all together.

On Friday I received an email from a man proclaiming that he was the Hiring Manager for a certain company that I applied with. He asked, by email, at 12:20 pm, if I was free to do a half hour phone interview at 2:00 pm. Knowing this was going to be a huge pain in the ass, I agreed to it anyways and ended up pawning off my babysitting onto someone else knowing I couldn’t take this call with children running through the background.

2:00 pm rolled around, no call.

2:05 pm, no call.

2:15 pm, no call. I emailed him to ask ‘What’s up?’ in a very polite, professional manner.

2:45 pm, I am at this point already moved onto something else with my afternoon when the phone rings. As I did not have this individuals phone number, I couldn’t phone him. I presumed he forgot, or got busy, and I went on with my day.

3:11 pm, my phone rings with a number I do not recognize. I answer the phone and I hear ‘Hi, this is so-in-so calling from ‘x’ company’. It’s him. The man who scheduled the call for 2 is calling me at 3:11.

I started to chat with him anyway, trying to be extremely professional and not let it bother me that he called over an hour late. As I was talking to him though, I got an iffy feeling. Things didn’t seem on the up-and-up. This man claimed in his email that he was the Hiring Manager for the company, so I thought I was speaking directly to someone who was involved with the hiring process. As he continued talking, though, he didn’t seem much like a hiring manager at all. He stumbled on his words, on his thoughts, on the basic ability to maintain a conversation on the phone. He seemed to be struggling in a big way, and he wasn’t comprehending the industry lingo that I was providing, consistently asking me to explain – though they were things he should already know.

Nevertheless, I continued on. When you’re unemployed, you kind of need to go with the flow, no matter what happens with respect to job prospects, because you don’t get to pick and choose. I think that employers definitely take advantage of that. It shows in how they treat their potential employees… not well.

At around 3:30 this call was wrapping up and ‘so-in-so’ said “Thank you for speaking with me today.” I returned the comment, thanking him for his time. Then he said “I will give this to the hiring manager.”

This confused me. As he said he was the hiring manager. I responded with “Oh, you’re not hiring for this position? I thought your email had said you were the hiring manager”.

His response: “I’m not the hiring manager. The hiring manager doesn’t conduct preliminary interviews like this. He’s far too busy.”

My response: “Oh, okay, thank you for letting me know. May I ask, what is your position? Your email had mentioned you were the hiring manager, so I am just curious.”

“I’m the summer student,” he said.

THE SUMMER STUDENT.

Suddenly, it all made sense. I was talking to the summer student. That’s why he struggled with speaking, with understanding what I was saying and with conducting the phone interview in general. Nothing against him, he was likely just thrown into the job and not given much of any information to go off, but HOLY FUCKING HELL.

You’re having your summer student conduct preliminary interviews for you? How? Why? On what planet is this a good idea?

Pardon me for being of the belief that a hiring manager should never be ‘too busy’ to hire people. That’s the very basic core of their job description.

You’re putting the preliminary phase of the hiring process in the hands of someone you’re not paying, who has minimal industry experience, who won’t be at the company in four months time because he’ll be going back to school and is lacking professional experience to do the task you’ve given him? Everyone has to start somewhere, I get that. But if you want to teach him, hop on these calls with him. Don’t make him conduct these calls himself.

That is a sign of a bad boss, in my opinion.

  1. If you say you’re going to call someone at a certain time, call them at that certain time. There is a small leeway for if one gets busy or if something happens at the office. That leeway is not extended beyond an hour later. Sorry, but that’s not right.
  2. If you’re going to hire someone, don’t put the summer student in charge. It’s not fair to him and it’s not fair to the people who are applying for positions within your organization. A summer student works these positions to get professional experience – to get shown the ropes, not to ‘sink or swim’.
  3. If that’s how you treat potential employees, I really have to wonder how you treat actual employees.

24 thoughts on “Adventures in job hunting, continued.

  1. Wow, what a wonderful experience! *We are entering sarcasm central, next stop lunacy lane!*

    I’ve had a similarly frustrating experience within the last week. Applied for a full-time job in the care industry, got through an introductory meeting to an interview… Never mentioned until the recruiter let slip the position wasn’t actually full-time, it was a ZERO HOUR CONTRACT! Like, excuse me what?!?! On what planet can those two things be advertised as the same?! Was offered the job, not THAT desperate to lose my mortgage! Anyway! Good luck with your search, may we both find success soon.

    Luna Xx

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    1. That sounds a little ridiculous. How is that even possible? I’m sorry for what you’re dealing with, that’s got to be frustrating. I may not have a mortgage on the line, but I do seriously feel your pain!!!

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      1. I have no idea! I thought they’d stopped doing 0 hour contracts but clearly I’m wrong 😦 keep searching, you’ll find something!

        In the wise words of Ron Weasley, “Don’t let the Muggles get you down!”

        Luna 🙂 xx

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  2. Having been a hiring manager myself, I can assure you that you are right. This is no way to get the job done, that job being the hiring of good employees who feel respectfully considered. I doubt many handled themselves this way, and it may have just been a false front to give the kid a chance to get some experience with no real job in waiting.

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    1. Which is insane to me!

      Thanks for your input. Having never been a hiring manager, it’s always nice to hear that I’m not crazy, that stuff like that should not be happening.

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  3. I understand your frustration, but big business does this type of crap all of the time. I worked for large insurance companies as an RN, CCM. Quite a few times the person I spoke with was not really familiar with the job for which I had applied, but their role was to go through a series of questions the hiring person gave them and then turn it into the hiring person. I feel your pain, but know it is not unusual, unfortunately. Also had them call an hour late and act like it was a normal thing. Ugh!

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    1. I totally get you. It’s frustrating. I just… I know everyone needs to learn and I’m all for them getting the opportunity, I feel though, if someone is that raw and new to it, perhaps they should have someone help them, or with them on calls, or in interviews. Ya know? Doing it alone really doesn’t seem right.

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      1. Yep. Poor thing. They usually record those calls and he/she should have had more help. Sorry for that crappy experience, but maybe the caller does not reflect the job? Hope not!

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  4. I’m sorry you are so upset about your experience. I had a somewhat similar experience today. The nurse that comes to visit me said she would be here in 10 minutes. I waited and waited. It took her about half-an-hour. I know it’s not the same thing. But, the wait for me was agonizing. 30-minutes of waiting for someone that is suppose to care about you, when they said 10-minutes. I know I’m over reacting now but again the wait was excruciating to me.

    In her defense though, she probably didn’t know the area, maybe she got stuck behind a train or didn’t have GPS so she was just guessing. I didn’t say anything to her about it, but I wish they knew what I was going through on a daily basis. I try to talk to them (the nurses) about me, but I don’t think the message is getting passed along.

    One a different note, related to your blog. Management usually sucks. In all the jobs I’ve worked at, they’ve pretty much sucked. Except for one, but the manager changed jobs and than I was laid-off by the new management. And… here we are now! (We have a little bit in common!)

    Sorry for such a long response, but like, I have nothing else to do. Or so it seems. Cheers!

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    1. Your post reminds me that it’s an unvariably sucky feeling when you don’t believe you’re being heard,understood, or given the time of day. Waiting sucks. They wouldn’t like it if it were done to them, yet they really don’t think about it when it comes to other people. It’s a real catch 22.

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  5. Or when you apply for a job, go through 2 interviews , then find out that it’s all a scam and they’re trying to make you move money from banks to banks under your name saying that you’re “going to be buying auto parts” with that money later on … ha ha fun U_U

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  6. You make too much sense, V! 😂 I’m starting to think the job of “hiring manager” would be a good job for YOU. 😊 You actually know how to treat people. You’d think that the points you’re listing would be common sense to everyone, but it’s been made very clear to you that people don’t have this skill the way you do.

    It was awesome to be able to witness to your thinking during the process. You have an eye for what needs improvement, and you break it down in a rational way.

    I think the best way to get a job is through volunteering. You get to know what you love, and people see your work ethic. The more people you meet, the more contacts you have. Getting a good job is all about who you know. That’s how I got my job.

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    1. I would agree with you on the Volunteering aspect. One of my best friends is someone I met eight years ago when I was volunteering at Ronald McDonald House. She’s one of the best people I know. Volunteering opens a lot of doors!

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      1. V, I thought you’d like this interview by a highly sought-after business consultant who holds the same views as you about interviewing:

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