Tinfoil Theories

I’m wearing a tinfoil hat as I share this.

I just finished watching a YouTube video in which the individual posed the thought that perhaps Trump ‘tested positive’ as a means to deflect the national and international outrage he’s been suffering since the debate for not being willing to denounce white supremacists.

Checking into the hospital under the guise of having COVID gets him 1) Sympathy from the masses (even if you don’t like him, you don’t want to se him sick) and 2) An excuse. An excuse for whatever the fuck he wants.

I’m not saying that it’s true. It’s just a theory I heard on YouTube. But, when I stop to think about it, it’s really not that far fetched.

66 thoughts on “Tinfoil Theories

      1. Not that far fetched… you do realize the Secret Service protocols require every president (whether they agree or like it or not) have to go to Walter Reed as a National Security precaution, if they are sick, right?

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      2. Nevermind… I found you to be a bright and informed person that relied on facts and critical thinking skills, and thereby someone wanted to be supportive of, not someone that touts a prefers as disingenuous theory of bias conjecture from Youtube, which only serves to make our world more divided and uglier.

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      3. I don’t think V was necessarily saying that the whole explanation was not too far-fetched (e.g. including the white supremacists bit), but the middle paragraph she wrote about the general idea of deliberately putting on the act and getting sympathyโ€” that’s not too far-fetched at all, compared to other things that we’ve seen from him and others. It’s certainly within his character. There’s a greater question of whether he could get enough accomplices to go along with it in practice, though.

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    1. You know, I used to think that a lot of the crazy things he did was just for show but lately my opinions are changing. When we won’t commit to accepting the election regardless of the outcome, and he’s basically on national/international television encouraging his supporters to go to polling stations and intimidate voters… it’s a lot that I worry about.

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  1. Given that Donald Trump is over 70 (clinically vulnerable), I think he has been very wise to get medical care rather than ‘self-isolating’ & waiting until his condition deteriorates. This is what Boris Johnson did; self-isolated as per the (black-&-white) guidance, condition deteriorated, ended-up in hospital.

    I don’t agree with everything the guy says, there’s stuff I agree with, stuff I don’t. My concern is that Trump falling ill will be used as justification for more lockdown, more restrictions on freedom.

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    1. I remember when Boris Johnson was hospitalized and given Trump’s age, it’s probably smart for him to be receiving care right now. Thankfully, due to his position, he’s basically guaranteed the best care in the country. I also hope that the rest of his family is okay. If I do recall, all of his adult children were with him on that trip, weren’t they? None of whom were seen wearing masks in public. Since we can’t know when transmission of the virus occurred, hopefully they’re doing okay. And frankly, anyone else who was also on that plane as I’m betting there was an entourage of staff, security, and more.

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    2. I always wondered why Boris never was taken to hospital straight way, especially as he our prime minister.

      This virus really! It has the whole world at its feet. And still there are folk in my country who don’t believe it exists and don’t social distance.

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      1. I think, back when he was diagnosed, there was still so much unknown about the virus that perhaps he and his team didn’t want to panic anyone by immediately hospitalizing him. Maybe? That’s a guess. Our Prime Minister and his wife didn’t go to the hospital either. Of course he didn’t end up contracting it. But they quarantined from home together. Now that it’s so many months later, I think out of an abundance of caution, Trump is being hospitalized immediately. It’s probably something that should have happened for Boris Johnson when he was diagnosed and other countries are learning from that, I think.

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      2. There are two levels of mitigating the effects of the virus a) prevention of spread, particularly to vulnerable groups and b) making sure that people who do catch it, particularly vulnerable groups, get prompt treatment. Apparently there’s cases where clinically-vulnerable people caught the virus and were told to just self-isolate, to let their condition worsen instead of getting medical attention.

        Another thing is, what about countries like India and Brazil that use treatments like Hydroxyxhloroquine? The question is, why do we NEVER hear any coverage of them in mainstream media outlets?

        I know the virus can be dangerous to some, but I don’t agree with ‘suppression’ until vaccine approach is the right approach. There are much better ways to mitigate the effects.

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      3. I live in UK and I see each country doing it’s own version of dealing with this. I think it is very hard to deal with. I believe everyone should be safe as all life is valueable. I have elderly loved ones I dont want to lose them, because of poor government advice.

        Is there a right answer to this. I know that I dont know and it is a hard task for all countries. I do my bit to keep myself safe and others safe. And I pray. That is the least I can do.

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      4. I get the concern if you have older relatives. There’s easy ways to prevent them from getting the virus; don’t go to busy social venues, avoid public transport if possible, refrain from visiting for two weeks if you suspect you might have been exposed, meet outside if possible, where a face-covering when visiting if in doubt. I think simple common sense is better than government-imposed totalitarianism. I’m sure there’s plenty of older people out there who’re of the opinion ‘why should my safety infringe the freedoms of the many?’ My Morris dancing team are largely of that opinion. Another thing I cannot stand about this regime is how the government and media treats people like bloody children incapable of exercising their own common sense. I am going a bit off-topic from the main discussion.

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      5. Do keep distant from older or frail-looking people (respect their comfort). Don’t treat everyone you don’t know like a lepor/plague-bearer. That’s what I don’t like about ‘(anti-social) distancing’. As long as you protect those clnically-vulnerable groups (the NHS website defines them loud and clear) there’s a link in my blog posts.

        RE going away? The virus is not going away any time soon. We will have to live with it. It’s fear that’s the problem (&dependence on one or two sources of media) not the virus. Enough immunity gets built-up among non-vulnerable people will slow the spread and risk to older and vulnerable categories. The virus will get extinguished (also, more will be found out scientifically).

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  2. Being shuttled to Walter Reed makes all this legitimate and quite serious. I’m not a supporter of the man but don’t wish ill of anyone.

    I despise the Internet algorithm reinforcing the filtered view of the world; it’s why we’re divided and yelling at each other.

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    1. I genuinely appreciate this perspective.

      I wish him and his wife a speedy recovery. And, to everyone else who was on that trip, I hope that if they were also diagnosed, they have a speedy and smooth recovery as well.

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    2. RE the algorihm; it’s not the internet it’s the search engine’s you might be using? I use DuckDuckGo which gives results based on keyword searches. The problem with Google & Youtube is the ‘Filter bubble’ effect. One of the main things cited by DuckDuckGo is not having the ‘filter bubble’ effect. I highly recommend shopping-around for other alternatives to Google.

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  3. I know you don’t want another debate on your hands, but my guess is that it’s his way of deflecting the upcoming Ioss of the election. I woulda won but for that covid thing…
    If he’s sick, he can lose and not lose face…

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    1. I’ve been no stranger to sharing my political thoughts on this blog. And, while I do wish Biden would get elected, I am betting that Trump gets reelected at this point. You might be right, though. While I don’t wish sickness on anyone, and I hope it isn’t too hard on him, he could end up using it to his advantage in the next few weeks. I guess we’ll have to see what happens in the next few weeks.

      I just want to add that my thoughts, the YouTube video and everyone’s theories I’ve seen floating around since his diagnosis being made public are just theories. No one really knows what’s going except for him, his wife and the people taking care of him (doctors, nurses, hospital staff and his PR team). I hope they, and anyone else who was on that trip with them, have a very speedy recovery.

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    1. That could very well be.

      Perhaps my years of working in public relations has jaded me as well.

      I sincerely hope that he has a speedy recovery and that, after he’s released, has a lot of thanks and praise for everyone who takes care of him through this.

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  4. I actually also considered the idea of him either lying about being infected, or deliberately trying to become infected, as some kind of strategy. Generally I consider all possibilities in everything (that I can imagine) and based on his track record and levels of corruption then no, this isn’t too far-fetched at all. I’m only referring to the idea of being infected/’infected’ as the basis of a strategy, not the particular explanation.

    “Sympathy from the masses (even if you donโ€™t like him, you donโ€™t want to se him sick)”

    Haha, I dunnoโ€ฆ I think that’s a lot to ask! Certainly nobody can influence the outcome, but him not being able to continue would certainly have its benefits on a large scale. Having said that, though, if he loses the election anyway, then there’s not much actual benefit in it at this point.

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    1. As far as sympathy from the masses, I think there are a lot of people in this world who are feeling for him and his wife today. I know I am, and I genuinely despise the man. That being said, my distaste for him as a human being does not wish illness on him. I have a feeling that a lot of people feel the same.

      Also, I don’t know about you, but I genuinely at this point think he’s going to be reelected. (Before the diagnosis, before the debate, etc.) I really don’t see anything at this point that can stop his reelection. I would love for Biden to be elected, but I just don’t think that’ll happen.

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      1. I totally agree with that sentiment, yeah, I’d never want to propagate a cycle of aggression with more aggression, so yeah I also don’t wish illness on him. Though being totally honest, I would be partying if he didn’t make it ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. I mean I’d keep it to myself though, cos I wouldn’t want to encourage thoughts in the spirit of ‘vengeance’, but it’s out of mine or anyone elses’ hands. Also for me, personally, my sympathy has practical limits. But I totally admire the ability to have absolute sympathy. And I fully agree with mercy. I’m just drawing a personal moral line between what’s caused by accident and what’s not. I accept that others may not make that distinction.

        Yeah I’ve not been holding my breath on re-election! But in the last month, my feeling has changed to him not being re-elected (unless something like postal voting has opened up extra opportunity for corruption, or corruption plays a part in some other way. That’s also not out of reach in these times!). Also of course, I’m not ruling out this whole drama somehow swinging it towards him.

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  5. Someone told me today that he’s faking COVID so he can fake his death so as to not be held accountable for anything, and then be known as a president who died in office and all that that entails.

    I hate to say that we live in a time that this isn’t completely implausible.

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    1. This particular theory came from a youtube channel called ‘Jimmy Snow’. Since I typed up this theory though there’s been a couple thousand others circulating the web. Heck, I’ve seen some on Fox, CNN and MSNBC today.

      For the record, I led with the Tinfoil title because I am not touting it as truth. Just something interesting I saw.

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  6. Agreed. Iโ€™m not saying I want any harm to come to the guy…but then again, if you live by the Fake News then you canโ€™t really whine if you die by the Fake News. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฝโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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    1. In spite of how much I dislike him, I don’t wish anything bad to happen to him. He’s someone’s dad, someone’s grandpa, someone’s husband… to me he gets the sentiments of everyone else who’s suffered through COVID. But, I also wouldn’t put it past him… and this video I watched isn’t the only one to think this could be a PR stunt.

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      1. Heโ€™s someoneโ€™s ex husband. Someoneโ€™s harasser, someone elseโ€™s ex husband. Someoneโ€™s client that welched on payment.
        Iโ€™m hoping at best this is karma or reaping what one sows and a political stunt at the worst.

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      2. Oh, he’s all of those things too. I totally agree.
        As much as I despise the man, I’d rather see him have to live like us regular folk because he lost all of his money than ill. At least that way if he learned what reality was like, he’d have a hard, hard life.

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    1. That seems to be a running trend. Even the reports from the doctors of how he’s being treated are so scattered and they’re going back on the things they’ve said and changing their stories. I just… I don’t know. I wish him well. I wish him a speedy recovery. But part of me also hears he’s being released in 24 hours while doctors are saying remdesivir takes five days and that his doctors are giving him remdesivir… and there’s just a lot more questions than answers circulating this.

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  7. I donโ€™t think this is karma. I think itโ€™s the expected result of ignoring science. However, we need him well for the election. We donโ€™t want a different candidate because so many republicans have flipped to Biden. We donโ€™t want them flipping back to a new GOP candidate. I hope those doctors fix him up and he gets well so he can get his ass kicked on Nov. 3

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    1. Can that happen? I don’t know enough about US politics. Can they put someone else on the ballot this late?

      (Not saying this is going to happen. And again, I wish him a speedy recovery and I do not wish him any harm, I’m just asking because you posed the theory and I guess I’m not well enough versed in American politics that I need to ask)

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      1. It’s still up in the air in a lot of people’s opinions. There have been instances in statewide races, even for US Senate, where a candidate has won who is dead. At that point, the governor calls for a special election and the party of the deceased candidate nominates a new person.

        I’m guessing that whatever our laws actually say, that is largely what would happen with the presidential election, because in this country, laws are just suggestions. It’s what a judge says that matters. As I said, my fear is that there would be a candidate that would be more palatable to the Republicans who are turned off by Trump. I want him to be the GOP nominee and I want him to keep doing crazy shit that turns off over 50% of the electorate right up until Nov. 3.

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  8. I would have thought it poor timing for him to be sick to be honest, but who knows. We had similar theories over here about our PM Boris testing positive a while back and apparently suffering quite badly in hospital. My first thought when I heard the news was actually that it was a propaganda stunt but I don’t think we’ll ever really know the truth. Interesting to theorise though! x

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  9. “even if you donโ€™t like him, you donโ€™t want to see him sick”
    Ummmm… While this probably makes me a terrible person, I absolutely want to see him sick with covid. His deranged policies cause that whole mess in the USA so I have zero problem with him catching it. I don’t consider it karma or anything, but the result of his disregard for trying to control the outbreak and the fact that covid is particularly good at spreading itself even when measures are being taken to control it.

    “But, when I stop to think about it, itโ€™s really not that far fetched”
    I’m not so sure about that, him catching the virus he has been downplaying for over half a year is an admission that he was wrong and a display of weakness that couldn’t come at a more inconvenient time for his campaign. I’d be far more willing to believe he’d cover up catching it at this point and claim he just had a case of sniffles.

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    1. The video I watched also posed the thought that, under normal circumstance, we’d never hear about his COVID diagnosis because of how many months he’s spent pushing it down and pretending it doesn’t exist, and that could be another reason why we actually heard about the diagnosis.

      People are also saying that if he doesn’t get it bad, he’s going to be up at rally’s in no time saying that COVID isn’t bad and that people are whining and he kicked COVIDs ass so everyone can. Which also is another worry. Because if he comes out of the hospital thinking it’s nothing, he’s essentially going to downplay the loss of the 200,000+ lives even further. Ya know?

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  10. Do you have a link to the video? It would be completely immoral to fake COVID-19 just to gain sympathy from the public. In the hospital they have strict testing and for him to get away with something like that seems unlikely, even for someone as powerful as Trump.

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    1. Trump is no stranger to doing immoral things. I don’t think it’s that far fetched for a president to limit the things doctors are allowed to share with the public. Ever since his team of doctors had their first press conference, every news outlet has saying his doctors have been real cagey about answering anything. And, since I’ve seen run-of-the-mill people fake COVID and adjust their results sheet in photoshop to get out of regular every day jobs here in our city, I guess perhaps I’m jaded. As for the video, the youtube channel is ‘Jimmy Snow’ and the video is called ‘Trump has COVID-19? What’s okay to say/feel?”

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    2. Also, news reports the past couple of days have been saying there’s a long history of presidents lying to the American people about the state of their health. See Jake Tapper and Anderson Cooper. (I know they’re more liberal leaning newscasters, but they’re not wrong when they present the evidence of past presidents doing such)

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