Natalia Grace on Dr. Phil

Well, today was the day. For the first time after all these months hearing Michael and Kristine Barnett slandering their adoptive daughter in the news with nothing but speculation they’re trying to claim as ‘evidence’, Natalia finally got her chance to share her side to the story.

There are varying degrees of opinions following the interview today. A lot of people online still painting her to be a liar, still doing… what I would consider to be online bullying with their words.

While I admit, there are some things I would love to have been asked/answered that weren’t, I trust that if Dr. Phil thought anything ridiculous going on he either would have 1) Stated that, or 2) Not aired the episode at all. He, as an executive producer has the power to decide what makes it to air and what doesn’t. He doesn’t need the ratings, his show isn’t in jeopardy. So, there was no reason for him to air this interview other than him wanting to let Natalia share her story.

In my personal opinion, Natalia is a 16 year old. I thought this before I watched Dr. Phil and after watching Dr. Phil, my opinion is only stronger that that is, in fact, the case.

A couple of important things happened on the show today:

  • Dr. Phil asked Natalia over and over and over again what her thoughts were so far as to the Barnett’s and their actions and, not once, did Natalia say a bad or negative thing about them.
  • When asked if she thinks the Barnett’s should serve jail time for their actions, Natalia said that all she wants to happen is that she gets her life back. She wants her age changed back to what it should be. She said that the court could give them jail time, and if they do that would be the courts decision. She said that she just wants her age changed back on paper and to be able to move on with her life.
  • Natalia said it wasn’t two months into her adoption that the Barnett’s started questioning her age and stopped treating her like family.
  • Dr. Phil asked Natalia about the speculations the Barnett’s have blasted through media cycles the past couple of months and Natalia responded to each of them. And honestly, it just seems like things the Barnett’s are blowing out of proportion to try and play a victim card.
  • Natalia’s parents, the people who have looked after her since she was abandoned, speculated a couple of things. 1) The father speculated they were trying to discredit her mental stability and when they couldn’t do that, that’s when they came up with the plan to change her age so they could leave her ‘because she was an adult’ and 2) The mother speculated that Natalia’s medical conditions and need for surgery would slow down their ability to devote their lives to their boy genius son and be touted in the media as an incredible mother looking after a son with Autism and advocating for people with disabilities, and that Kristine just didn’t want the negative press.

Honestly, I do think it’s a bit of both.

As mentioned in the previous posts I have done about Natalia Grace, I do believe she is a child. I do believe she is still a minor. Call this opinion biased if you’d like, but I am stating this is, in fact my opinion because I don’t want people to ‘come for me’ for saying it’s fact.

I’m grateful for the Mann family for taking in Natalia, a little girl who was forced to grow up way too quickly and who deserved better from both the Barnett’s and the United States government.

I sincerely hope, when all is said and done and the trial is over, that her age is legally changed back and she gets to lead a normal life. The Barnett’s are callous. The State of Indiana fucked up here. They really did. The judge who legally changed her age needs to be investigated. To me, it’s abundantly clear the Barnett’s crafted a way to ‘dispose’ of her that wouldn’t hurt their image and public notoriety gained from being the amazing parents to their child prodigy son Jacob. Natalia wasn’t an daughter to them. Natalia was an inconvenience to them. She’s the victim here.

I’m so disappointed in the media. I really am. All of these people who’ve been promoting Kristine and Michael’s lies and dragging this girl through the mud, they should have to apologize. I really hope they swallow the sword and grow up and apologize. Because until they do, Natalia is never going to be able to lead a normal life. Her name, face, likeness and person has been dragged through the mud for months… at the hands of this couple who refuse to admit their wrong doings.

** Oh, Dr. Phil also said that he’s arranging for Natalia’s birth mother to come to the United States to reunite the two. Which is awesome. I hope this birth mother is, in fact her birth mother and that Dr. Phil can help prove that. Because if so, that’ll be a big help into getting to the bottom of this case!


Couple of Dr. Phil clips:

Natalia responding to specific claims made by Kristine Barnett
Natalia answering with what she wants when all is said and done.

Previous posts about this subject:

Natalia Grace Speaks! – Nov 4, 2019

Natalia Grace – I can’t even with this crazy story… – October 9, 2019

Natalia Grace Speaks!

In follow up to ‘Natalia Grace – I can’t even with this crazy story…

Photo: Screenshot of the trailer for the Natalia Grace appearance on Dr. Phil.

A few weeks back I actually heard that Natalia was going to be on the Dr. Phil show to share her side to the story. I’ve been waiting to write more on this story because I wanted to find out when she was actually going to appear on Dr. Phil before saying anything so that if people were interested they could watch as well.

Natalia Grace, along the foster parents she’s been living with since being abandoned in 2013, will be on the Dr. Phil show on Nov 7 (this Thursday).

If anyone is interested in hearing Natalia’s side to this story, I strongly encourage you to tune into Dr. Phil on Thursday. In my opinion, I believe of any person on television that could possibly get to the truth of the matter, Dr. Phil is probably the most reliable.

A few interesting things have happened in this story since I first spoke about it a few weeks back. Without further adieu, here we go:

Firstly, Michael and Kristine Barnett (mostly Michael) continued selling their story and making media appearances for any outlet that would hear them and… basically believe their side. To my account they appeared on at least fifteen different shows on three different continents spewing their ‘speculations’.

Following this ‘media tour’ of sorts, Prosecutors in Indiana filed an injunction to get a gag-order placed on Michael and Kristine Barnett that would stop them from speaking about Natalia in the media. They argued that Michael and Kristine Barnett were essentially trying to sway public opinion in their favour as a means to 1) Taint any possibly jury that could be selected for their upcoming January 2020 trial and 2) Look less guilty if they could get the general public believing their egregious storytelling.

The judge agreed and the gag order was issued!

Secondly, the couple who initially intended to adopt Natalia when she was brought to the United States in 2009 has come forward with their paperwork from the Ukrainian government showing the birth date of 2003. Not only that but they have shown photos of themselves with Natalia from 2009 when Natalia was having overnight and weekend visits with the couple to determine if they could be suitable parents for the girl. One of those photos included below:

Photo credit: Vincent and Nicole DePaul

Vincent and Nicole DePaul, speaking with Inside Edition shared their dismay at the Barnett’s for abandoning Natalia and leaving her to fend for herself. They also showed young pictures of Natalia having, including one of her having lost baby teeth while in their care and others of Natalia enjoying time with their daughter Mackenzie.

Vincent, Nicole and their daughter Mackenzie all suffer from dwarfism themselves. The couple go on to share a reminder that the Barnett’s claims are egregious and ridiculous and that they have a special understanding of Natalia’s needs and disabilities because they’re dwarfs themselves. Natalia’s dwarfism causes severe disabilities with walking, seeing, hearing and… holding up her own weight on such a small skeletal frame. The couple asked (the very real question that I’ve asked myself many times during the reading of this story) how on earth a young girl with Dwarfism and disability causing her to not even be able to stand up straight could possibly have done the things the Barnett’s claimed, such as pushing Kristine Barnett towards an electric fence.

Valid question, right?

How did Natalia, at roughly three feet tall and probably fifty pounds of weight, struggling to properly stand straight and walk on her own, manage to push Kristine a full grown woman more than two feet taller than her towards an electric fence?

Another claim the Barnett’s made was that they awoke one night to find Natalia standing over their bed with a knife. Again, how does someone roughly three feet tall stand over a bed with a knife? Are they sleeping on the floor?

While the video didn’t say exactly why the DePaul family didn’t end up adopting Natalia, there could be a million reasons why. It was a bit of an oversight on Inside Edition to leave that information out. Could it have been purposeful? I don’t work at Inside Edition, so I can’t say for sure, but I if I were to bet money… I’d say that information was left out on purpose.

Anyways, regardless of why they didn’t adopt Natalia, I still believe she is a child, and I’m sticking with my belief that the Barnett’s are lying and have been since the start.

I’m excited to see Natalia on Dr. Phil on November 7. Have you been following the story? Will you be tuning in?